Posts by Village Idiot

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2014 increase in Memorial Partakers to 14,121

by jwfacts in

i have updated the article at memorial partakers with the figures released for 2014. no surprises here, it has risen yet again, this time by 6% over last year, and is now 14,121.. .

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Village Idiot

Seeing that the Watchtower alters its embarrassing statements it makes me wonder why they simply don't fake the numbers to anything that would be consistent with their doctrines.

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Elders Starting To Poke Around... Advice?

by Garrett in

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friends

as many of you know, i've been out of the organization for about a month now.

the elders haven't shown an interest in my absence until now.

today, i have received phone calls from two elders as well as a friend.

Village Idiot

Garrett, do you have any family that are still in? That might perhaps affect you and your plans.

If you choose to talk to them or they come to your door I suggest that you simply tell them that you are extremely depressed and that is why you haven't gone to the meetings. Switching congregations might also be a good idea; you can then fade, slowly, from that congregation and you probably won't be missed.

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The guy that claimed he was going to bring down the WTBTS

by Scarred for life in

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friends

i haven't been on the board for several weeks until yesterday.

there was a guy that was a regular poster that was starting some kind of email campaign that he claimed was going to bring down the wtbts.

i can't remember his name.

Village Idiot

cattails and others of this forum, I know him. He wants to remain anonymous. Talking about him will not be in his best interest.

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Will my inactive JW bring our children up as a witness?

by stevepill in

i have been with an in active jw for 6 years, she now wants to marry and have a child, will she want to bring a child up as a witness, she says not but any experiences?

will she start go back once we are married?

(i'm a non jw)

Village Idiot

flipper:

"In fact the WT mind control is SO strong that even JW's who get disfellowshipped or kicked out of the organization start feeling guilty and go back to it because it's all they know."

Very true. I know of 3 disfellowshiped persons and 2 non-disfellowshipped ones who get defensive about anything negative said about the Witnesses. One of them even started shouting at me when I criticized the Witnesses.

My advise is to get a copy of the book Crisis of Conscience and ask her to read it.

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Now I can't make comments...

by Newly Enlightened in

now it appears that i cannot make comments.

there is no comment box under anything.

Village Idiot

I can make comments but they turn into a solid block of unreadable print no matter how many paragraph spaces I put in.

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Atheists are so evil!

by stuckinarut2 in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwkdoikigis.

this is very clever!.

i'm sure every witness has heard this sort of reasoning over the years?.

Village Idiot

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MFmC6BD1B4&feature=player_detailpage

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Atheists are so evil!

by stuckinarut2 in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwkdoikigis.

this is very clever!.

i'm sure every witness has heard this sort of reasoning over the years?.

Village Idiot

INonStampCollector videos, especially the ones where you have an angel or angels trying to talk some sense into Jesus or Yahweh.

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Regarding Dates---Have The Witnesses Ever Been Correct On Any Of Them?

by minimus in

i can't think of any chronology that has not been changed.

even their "absolute" dates are suspect.

Village Idiot

Simon, why is my text coming out as a solid block when I separate them into paragraphs?

Edit: If I double tap on the paragraphs it comes out like the above. ???

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Regarding Dates---Have The Witnesses Ever Been Correct On Any Of Them?

by minimus in

i can't think of any chronology that has not been changed.

even their "absolute" dates are suspect.

Village Idiot

OneEyedJoe:

"I often wonder how many jws there would be had they not gotten lucky with 1914. They got thee month wrong, but that kept me thinking "what if they're right?" for a long time." Actually they unpredicted 1914. The exact opposite of what they predicted including no international war on that date was the most humiliating thing that could have happened to them. Let me give the general background on the original 1914 teaching. They thought that the last days was the time period between 1799 and 1914. Armageddon was supposed to have been a 40 year period dating from 1874 to 1914. It did not consist of war, famine and earthquakes like Matthew 24:6-7 clearly stated but it was to be a 'social' Armageddon with an escalating dissolution of society due to social unrest culminating with downright fratricide between government, false religion, unions and what have you. According to them the prophecy of Matthew 24 referred to the last 1800 years beginning with Jesus' statement. 1914 was supposed to be the beginning of the Millennium which was to usher a period of peace. Here is the unprediction part. The Watchtower in the years leading to 1914 specifically said that there would be no wars in the time period of Armageddon or if it did happen it would be of minor significance. The Watchtower in the 1880s made that statement because its readers started thinking that there would be war because the political situation in Europe looked like there would be an outright war which would involve all of Europe. The reason those readers thought that was because the newspapers of that time kept mentioning how volatile Europe was. Charles Russell's response was that which I mentioned above. No world war or insignificant war by 1905. The reason he said that was based on his 'social' Armageddon which had no room for a war in which a victor would come out. Such a belief in war would have delayed the meticulous 1874 - 1914 prophecies in which there were to be no victors at all but the culmination of Armageddon where all nations would have sunk into chaos and self destruction. Since 1914 was supposed to have been the beginning of Jesus peaceful reign everything Russell predicted about Armageddon had to have happened by 1914. As the years approached 1914 without that 'social' Armageddon happening Russell, in 1905, seeing that nothing was happening as he predicted had a change of mind. in 1905 (If I remember correctly.) he spoke of a final "windup" in which everything that he predicted would accelerate and happen in a few years before or slightly after 1914. Still no wars, earthquakes or famine, but the same 'social' Armageddon. So guess what happened and on what date it happened? They claimed, after the start of the war, that they predicted what was to be World War I! It was some years afterwards that the organization dumped everything that Russell predicted and claimed that 1914 was the beginning of the end - bye bye 1799. This was the original 1914 which flopped big time but was salvaged later on with the last generation argument that they changed in the 1990s. Nothing, absolutely nothing including WWI came to pass as he predicted. Russell died in 1916 without changing the text from his book The Time is at Hand even though he had extensively changed all the minor secondary prophecies about the 40 year period of 1874 - 1914 in multiple editions of his 6 volume series. My sources are the book by Carl Jonsson The Gentile Times Reconsidered: Chronology and Christ's Return, Russell's book The Time is at Hand and the original bound volumes of the Watchtower.

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It must be of concern to the GB with all the information that is been leaked now

by joe134cd in

i was just watching cedars prank call to tomo3.

by the way lloyd very well done and totally funny.

but on a more serious note (and i think what must be of concern to the gb) are the amount of leaks that must be occurring at a senior level or at least by a person who has access to sensitive information.

Village Idiot

In my opinion t's best not to mention this too much because they might read it and be provoked into starting a witch hunt in Bethel.